Can a simple brick be the next great battery? | John O'Donnell

Episode Summary

Industrial production accounts for a large share of global fossil fuel use and carbon emissions. Decarbonizing industry is essential to addressing climate change. Clean industrial heat could enable factories to operate without fossil fuels and drastically reduce emissions. However, existing clean heat solutions like hydrogen and carbon capture are too expensive and challenging to scale up in the near term. Electrifying industrial heat by powering it with renewable energy is now economically viable as solar and wind costs have fallen below fossil fuel costs. But renewable energy is intermittent, while industry needs constant heat. Storing heat could provide continuity. New materials are being developed to store heat, but they will take time to commercialize. A faster, simpler solution is to store heat in conventional materials like brick and iron wire that are already mass-produced. By heating thousands of tons of brick with electricity and then using the stored heat to power industrial processes, emissions can be eliminated. This “heat battery” approach developed by Rondo Energy uses radiant heating for even distribution to avoid cracking bricks. Rondo’s heat battery technology is simple, scalable and poised for rapid growth. It can decarbonize production of cement, metals, chemicals and more. Analysts say the world needs twice as much heat storage as grid storage to fully decarbonize. Rondo aims to repower global industry and reduce emissions 15% in 15 years. Simple innovations like this can enable the transition to a sustainable, just and prosperous clean energy economy.

Episode Show Notes

The world relies on manufacturing, and manufacturing relies on heat — a massive contributor to global carbon emissions, responsible for a quarter of the world's fossil fuel use. Energy entrepreneur John O'Donnell has figured out a better, cleaner way to generate the heat we need to make the stuff we want. Learn how his team turned simple bricks and iron wire into a powerful, unconventional "heat battery" that could deliver industrial heat at scale without the emissions — and why he thinks electrified industrial heat is the next trillion-dollar industry.

Episode Transcript

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We also use fire to make almost everything. Industrial production, making stuff, uses more fossil fuel than any other part of the world economy. We burn coal, oil and gas to make steel, calcine, cement, cook baby food, make glass, make fabric. We don't notice it in our daily lives, but industrial energy use is the largest part of the total world economy, and industrial heat is a quarter of world fossil fuel use and world carbon emissions. Let me say that again. Industrial heat is a quarter of world carbon pollution. We need the stuff we make. We need to decarbonize our industry, not deindustrialize. How? If we had a new kind of fire, we could decarbonize today and avoid the time and costs associated with replacing our factories that run on heat. If we had clean heat, we could have the stuff that we use, and we could have a giant drop in world emissions. But for decades, we've dreamed of burning hydrogen or capturing carbon to get clean heat, but costs and challenges continue to delay their deployment. The good news is, today, there is a faster, cheaper way of doing it, electrification. Analysts now say that electrified industrial heat is the next trillion-dollar market. I agree. They're right, because the ongoing cost dropping in wind and solar, power costs now are dropping to the point that wind and solar cost less than the fuels our factories burn. So we have the economic conditions to drive to scale. We also have the capacity to build at scale. Today, we have everything we need to build wind and solar at scale to repower industrial heat. Yes, it's terawatts. It's five times more wind and solar than is in the world today. But there is a solution. We have everything we need except continuity. The wind blows, and the sun shines only some of the time. Heavy industry needs heat all the time. So we need to store energy some of the time, so we can have clean heat all the time. How? Most ways of storing electricity are too expensive or inefficient to use for industrial heat. But what if we just stored heat? Storing electricity as heat can be simple and really low-cost. Teams around the world are now trying to build industrial heat batteries that store energy this way, using new materials like liquid salts, liquid metals and solid carbon. And some of these are going to work. They'll take time, time to learn if they're safe, time to learn how long they last, time to learn how to make a lot of something new. My colleagues at Rondo found a way to save time, to go faster, by using old materials that the world already makes in volume. What were they? One of them was brick. The other was iron wire. Why brick? Two hundred years ago, the steel industry introduced a coal-saving technology. They started building blast stoves that store heat at thousands of degrees in thousands of tons of brick. Brick is basically made from dirt, and dirt is available at scale. When it's red-hot, a brick stores as much energy as a lithium-ion battery per pound, costs 10 times less, lasts 10 times longer. Half a million tons of brick are storing heat at steel mills around the world right now. Iron wire? A hundred years ago, a new alloy for heating elements, from toasters to industrial furnaces, was invented that is made only of iron, with a little chromium and aluminum. Today, that heating element is on your kitchen counter and in industrial furnaces and kilns around the world. Combining brick and wire could be really cost-effective. We would know how to make a lot of it right away, but there are some challenges. If you overheat a brick on one side, if you don't heat it evenly, it can crack. If you overheat just one spot on a wire, the wire may fail. We finally found the way to do it. The way to combine these was to heat brick the way your toaster heats bread, the way the sun heats the earth, with radiant heat. It only took us 74 design revisions to find the solution and hundreds of simulations. But the key insight? Heating brick with radiation. We built a 3D checkerboard of brick and open chambers. The chambers let radiant heat spread the heat evenly, so electricity can heat thousands of tons of brick to thousands of degrees, safely and evenly. Once you've done that, now you have stored energy and delivering clean heat is really simple. Push air into the brick stack, superheated air comes out that powers your kiln or your furnace, or heats a boiler to make steam for your chemical plant or your food production facility. Presto, you have a heat battery, an industrial boiler that runs all day, all night, all year on the wind or the sun, a cement kiln that burns no fuel, a chocolate factory with zero scope one and scope two emissions. Simple, low cost and efficient. We are now at this very interesting point. Technology like this is simple, it's boring, it can go to scale fast. If you want to go to scale fast, it's good to be boring, to use these simple processes. There is a valley of death that everyone talks about about new technologies, between new technologies where high capital costs can absorb uncertainty and low capital costs, huge infrastructure needs certainty. New and boring is a really strange combination, but it's an excellent recipe for going fast. Leading climate investment funds, industrial producers agreed that our kind of boring is a good idea and have helped us build a great team to build big and go fast. Today, Rondo is supplying heat for low-carbon fuel production and developing projects around the world that will produce food, chemicals, metals and cement. We are producing bricks at gigawatt scale and growing that production over the next few years, 100-fold. So we're at the beginning of a rapid ramp, tackling our climate crisis, needs our will, but it also needs tools to build big, new energy infrastructure fast. This is one of those tools. It's a six-gigaton tool. Analysts say the fully decarbonized world needs twice as much heat battery storage as grid battery storage. Heat batteries powered by the wind and sun will lower, not raise, the cost of making the things we need in the decarbonized world. This new kind of fire will power a safer, more prosperous, more just world for our children and their children. Our challenge, Rondo's great opportunity, is to build at scale to repower the world's industry and save 15 percent of world's CO2 emissions. And with your help, we can get that done in 15 years. That's why I have hope, and I hope you do too. Thank you. SPEAKER_00: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.